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	<title>Comments on: Holy Friggin&#8217; Crap</title>
	<link>http://erstories.net/archives/1420</link>
	<description>ER Stories       Real Life Tales from the Emergency Room</description>
	<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 06:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ramses II</title>
		<link>http://erstories.net/archives/1420#comment-10800</link>
		<dc:creator>Ramses II</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 04:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://erstories.net/archives/1420#comment-10800</guid>
		<description>Well, I'm no doctor (Don't all great comments on medical matters begin with exactly those words? :p) but the type of blunt force required to tear his entire face in half would surely have also massively concussed his brain on impact. People do die from head impacts that aren't sufficient to explode soft tissue.

If something *cut* or *ripped* his face off (If he'd slid past the edge of the concrete dock, scraped his face off, and the flap was hanging from his chin) that would be one thing and the skull and brain could easily be intact, but for the skin to be bashed hard enough to crack and tear under the pressure absolutely has to have done some brain damage as well. IMHO.

The fact that he was floating face down (ugh, that phrase has new meaning) in the video isn't reassuring of the idea that it could just be a surface injury either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m no doctor (Don&#8217;t all great comments on medical matters begin with exactly those words? :p) but the type of blunt force required to tear his entire face in half would surely have also massively concussed his brain on impact. People do die from head impacts that aren&#8217;t sufficient to explode soft tissue.</p>
<p>If something *cut* or *ripped* his face off (If he&#8217;d slid past the edge of the concrete dock, scraped his face off, and the flap was hanging from his chin) that would be one thing and the skull and brain could easily be intact, but for the skin to be bashed hard enough to crack and tear under the pressure absolutely has to have done some brain damage as well. IMHO.</p>
<p>The fact that he was floating face down (ugh, that phrase has new meaning) in the video isn&#8217;t reassuring of the idea that it could just be a surface injury either.</p>
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		<title>By: whitecap nurse</title>
		<link>http://erstories.net/archives/1420#comment-10784</link>
		<dc:creator>whitecap nurse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 07:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://erstories.net/archives/1420#comment-10784</guid>
		<description>So, it crossed my mind that this is a hoax of some sort but it looks pretty real.  I think it is definitely possible that he dies shortly after this video.  However, maybe he just ripped his face apart, his brain still works and he's breathing on his own.  I wouldn't describe the medical folks as lackadaisical.  We have no idea of their level of training.  They are probably doing the best they can with what they've got.  There is no point in putting a C-collar on this guy because that would require an intact jaw to do anything to stabilize the neck.  The one guy is holding his head in a neutral position and holding his face together, sorta, kinda.  Presumably the rest of the staff is hitting the phone bank to find the best plastic surgeon in the world, some higher facility to take this guy off their hands and the next of kin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, it crossed my mind that this is a hoax of some sort but it looks pretty real.  I think it is definitely possible that he dies shortly after this video.  However, maybe he just ripped his face apart, his brain still works and he&#8217;s breathing on his own.  I wouldn&#8217;t describe the medical folks as lackadaisical.  We have no idea of their level of training.  They are probably doing the best they can with what they&#8217;ve got.  There is no point in putting a C-collar on this guy because that would require an intact jaw to do anything to stabilize the neck.  The one guy is holding his head in a neutral position and holding his face together, sorta, kinda.  Presumably the rest of the staff is hitting the phone bank to find the best plastic surgeon in the world, some higher facility to take this guy off their hands and the next of kin.</p>
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		<title>By: BROCA’S area</title>
		<link>http://erstories.net/archives/1420#comment-10783</link>
		<dc:creator>BROCA’S area</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 04:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://erstories.net/archives/1420#comment-10783</guid>
		<description>shit!!....i wouldnt have a 1% chance of surviving here in our casualty!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>shit!!&#8230;.i wouldnt have a 1% chance of surviving here in our casualty!</p>
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		<title>By: Alisha</title>
		<link>http://erstories.net/archives/1420#comment-10779</link>
		<dc:creator>Alisha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://erstories.net/archives/1420#comment-10779</guid>
		<description>Wow, that is some serious stuff. Holy crap. His injuries HAD to be fatal. But it looks like he is breathing :/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, that is some serious stuff. Holy crap. His injuries HAD to be fatal. But it looks like he is breathing :/</p>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
		<link>http://erstories.net/archives/1420#comment-10777</link>
		<dc:creator>paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://erstories.net/archives/1420#comment-10777</guid>
		<description>uhh... maybe they cleared his spine clinically? i don't think nexus *technically* mentions mechanisms that make your face look like the cover of fangoria magazine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>uhh&#8230; maybe they cleared his spine clinically? i don&#8217;t think nexus *technically* mentions mechanisms that make your face look like the cover of fangoria magazine.</p>
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		<title>By: Elsi</title>
		<link>http://erstories.net/archives/1420#comment-10768</link>
		<dc:creator>Elsi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 04:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://erstories.net/archives/1420#comment-10768</guid>
		<description>Next time, w/ something that horrible, maybe you could make it click to play not automatic play?  Of course I did have to watch a while to see that.

I hope no one let his family see him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next time, w/ something that horrible, maybe you could make it click to play not automatic play?  Of course I did have to watch a while to see that.</p>
<p>I hope no one let his family see him.</p>
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		<title>By: Gert</title>
		<link>http://erstories.net/archives/1420#comment-10765</link>
		<dc:creator>Gert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 02:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://erstories.net/archives/1420#comment-10765</guid>
		<description>I coulda lived a lot of years without seeing that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I coulda lived a lot of years without seeing that.</p>
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		<title>By: SumDood</title>
		<link>http://erstories.net/archives/1420#comment-10760</link>
		<dc:creator>SumDood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://erstories.net/archives/1420#comment-10760</guid>
		<description>I saw a case of a guy who was feeling suicidal, so he shot himself in the mouth with a shotgun (not an easy thing to do).  He survived, and somehow managed to shoot himself in the mouth again!  He was far from dead.  He survived with full mental capacity, and after getting maxillo-facial prosthetics to make him a new nose &#38; palate, he tells anyone who will listen that suicide is not the answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw a case of a guy who was feeling suicidal, so he shot himself in the mouth with a shotgun (not an easy thing to do).  He survived, and somehow managed to shoot himself in the mouth again!  He was far from dead.  He survived with full mental capacity, and after getting maxillo-facial prosthetics to make him a new nose &amp; palate, he tells anyone who will listen that suicide is not the answer.</p>
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		<title>By: Ire.</title>
		<link>http://erstories.net/archives/1420#comment-10757</link>
		<dc:creator>Ire.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 23:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://erstories.net/archives/1420#comment-10757</guid>
		<description>'Trauma' is a bit on an inadequate word for that. Yikes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Trauma&#8217; is a bit on an inadequate word for that. Yikes.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
		<link>http://erstories.net/archives/1420#comment-10753</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://erstories.net/archives/1420#comment-10753</guid>
		<description>Oh wait, on second watch saw the line in the wrist connected to something with a pressure bag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh wait, on second watch saw the line in the wrist connected to something with a pressure bag.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
		<link>http://erstories.net/archives/1420#comment-10752</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://erstories.net/archives/1420#comment-10752</guid>
		<description>No apparent line of sorts either.  WTF.  It's like, hey, let's just push his face around some.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No apparent line of sorts either.  WTF.  It&#8217;s like, hey, let&#8217;s just push his face around some.</p>
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		<title>By: cynic</title>
		<link>http://erstories.net/archives/1420#comment-10751</link>
		<dc:creator>cynic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://erstories.net/archives/1420#comment-10751</guid>
		<description>Agree with Ramses, he was +/- Dead at the point of impact. All that was left was brain stem activity. That still does not justify the lackadaisical treatment provided.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with Ramses, he was +/- Dead at the point of impact. All that was left was brain stem activity. That still does not justify the lackadaisical treatment provided.</p>
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		<title>By: Ramses II</title>
		<link>http://erstories.net/archives/1420#comment-10746</link>
		<dc:creator>Ramses II</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://erstories.net/archives/1420#comment-10746</guid>
		<description>Isn't it possible the movements were reflexive and not indicative of any awareness? Not to try to justify this treatment, but seems probable he was dead from the neck up already and the rest of the body was just catching up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t it possible the movements were reflexive and not indicative of any awareness? Not to try to justify this treatment, but seems probable he was dead from the neck up already and the rest of the body was just catching up.</p>
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		<title>By: ERPA</title>
		<link>http://erstories.net/archives/1420#comment-10743</link>
		<dc:creator>ERPA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://erstories.net/archives/1420#comment-10743</guid>
		<description>I saw a similiar injury from an IED explosion in Iraq.  We thought about a cric but with all the facial deformity the intubation is easy as you can see directly into the posterior phayrnx.  I cannot believe the treatment of the patient in the ER if he was still alive and appeared to be gasping for air.  I am sure they were just waiting for him to die.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw a similiar injury from an IED explosion in Iraq.  We thought about a cric but with all the facial deformity the intubation is easy as you can see directly into the posterior phayrnx.  I cannot believe the treatment of the patient in the ER if he was still alive and appeared to be gasping for air.  I am sure they were just waiting for him to die.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
		<link>http://erstories.net/archives/1420#comment-10741</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://erstories.net/archives/1420#comment-10741</guid>
		<description>oh. my. goodness. 
I can't believe he survived long enough to get to the hospital. I'll have to agree with Pattie, RN - I really hope they maxed him out on pain meds and didn't inflict any additional pain.

I'm NEVER jumping into a non-pool body of water again. ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh. my. goodness.<br />
I can&#8217;t believe he survived long enough to get to the hospital. I&#8217;ll have to agree with Pattie, RN - I really hope they maxed him out on pain meds and didn&#8217;t inflict any additional pain.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m NEVER jumping into a non-pool body of water again. ever.</p>
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		<title>By: labrat</title>
		<link>http://erstories.net/archives/1420#comment-10740</link>
		<dc:creator>labrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://erstories.net/archives/1420#comment-10740</guid>
		<description>^ Um, seen, not seem ^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^ Um, seen, not seem ^</p>
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		<title>By: labrat</title>
		<link>http://erstories.net/archives/1420#comment-10739</link>
		<dc:creator>labrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://erstories.net/archives/1420#comment-10739</guid>
		<description>Uggh.  I wish  I hadn't seem that :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uggh.  I wish  I hadn&#8217;t seem that <img src='http://erstories.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: ERP</title>
		<link>http://erstories.net/archives/1420#comment-10738</link>
		<dc:creator>ERP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://erstories.net/archives/1420#comment-10738</guid>
		<description>OK, it should be viewable again.  Take your Zofran beforehand if you are squeamish!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, it should be viewable again.  Take your Zofran beforehand if you are squeamish!</p>
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		<title>By: ERP</title>
		<link>http://erstories.net/archives/1420#comment-10735</link>
		<dc:creator>ERP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will repost it later via a different server.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will repost it later via a different server.</p>
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		<title>By: stacy</title>
		<link>http://erstories.net/archives/1420#comment-10734</link>
		<dc:creator>stacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://erstories.net/archives/1420#comment-10734</guid>
		<description>Yeah! I only see the gray box with the message too!!!  awww darn!! I probly don't want to see the images anyway!  Stacy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah! I only see the gray box with the message too!!!  awww darn!! I probly don&#8217;t want to see the images anyway!  Stacy</p>
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