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	<title>Comments on: Transfer Ethics</title>
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	<description>ER Stories       Real Life Tales from the Emergency Room</description>
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		<title>By: shadowfax</title>
		<link>http://erstories.net/archives/291#comment-1649</link>
		<dc:creator>shadowfax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By law, an accepting facility may not refuse a transfer if they have the capacity to care for the patient and your facility does not.

In reality, they often do refuse, and then what do you do, as the doc with the patient?   You can't send them absent an accepting physician, and you can't browbeat them into accepting, so you are stuck with the patient, and if you want you can file an EMTALA complaint, and good luck with that.

In my experience, in tow states, I have never had a transfer refused for financial reasons.  I have had many transfers refused because the other doctor didn't want to deal with "our" problem patient.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By law, an accepting facility may not refuse a transfer if they have the capacity to care for the patient and your facility does not.</p>
<p>In reality, they often do refuse, and then what do you do, as the doc with the patient?   You can&#8217;t send them absent an accepting physician, and you can&#8217;t browbeat them into accepting, so you are stuck with the patient, and if you want you can file an EMTALA complaint, and good luck with that.</p>
<p>In my experience, in tow states, I have never had a transfer refused for financial reasons.  I have had many transfers refused because the other doctor didn&#8217;t want to deal with &#8220;our&#8221; problem patient.</p>
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		<title>By: Follow up the the Transfer</title>
		<link>http://erstories.net/archives/291#comment-1476</link>
		<dc:creator>Follow up the the Transfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] posted two day ago about a difficult transfer I was trying to make to another ER. See here. Anyway, the point of the post was to bring up the technical and logistical difficulties in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] posted two day ago about a difficult transfer I was trying to make to another ER. See here. Anyway, the point of the post was to bring up the technical and logistical difficulties in [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: A. Shah</title>
		<link>http://erstories.net/archives/291#comment-1448</link>
		<dc:creator>A. Shah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 02:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Confused about your transfer issues.  Sounds like you must work in a small community ER.  You said the "only place I could transfer her was 45 minutes away".....

I don't get it.  If there's a closer place that has these capabilities, what's stopping you from calling them and talking to their neurologist/ER attending to accept?  They can't refuse because she's uninsured.  They can only refuse if they have no beds or can't perform the angio.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Confused about your transfer issues.  Sounds like you must work in a small community ER.  You said the &#8220;only place I could transfer her was 45 minutes away&#8221;&#8230;..</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t get it.  If there&#8217;s a closer place that has these capabilities, what&#8217;s stopping you from calling them and talking to their neurologist/ER attending to accept?  They can&#8217;t refuse because she&#8217;s uninsured.  They can only refuse if they have no beds or can&#8217;t perform the angio.</p>
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